Decisions, decisions


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Because Local Government tends to make job offers at the bottom of each scale. I can probably negotiate a little higher, but they like to leave headroom in each scale for progression each year.
Actually, in the USA that is common anyway. Before my stint with the U.S. Navy as a contractor, I worked in private industry and rose to managerial levels. There were many cases where we were instructed to low-ball and we learned WHY we were instructed to low-ball.

Sometimes the interview doesn't tell the story. (I'm thinking of the movie Moneyball and its scenes with the scouts who have no sense of the depth of trouble their team had encountered.) We have had cases where we thought the candidate MIGHT be good and some where we were SURE s/he would be good. And in each of those scenarios, a percentage of people slipped though who were not capable of the level of work we needed done.

We were a high-tech software shop for a maker of industrial real-time control systems. The entire field of "real-time" programming is highly specialized and requires people to think of the process being controlled or monitored. If you can't grasp the operational requirements, we can't use you for our purposes even if some bank or mercantile business would LOVE to have you.

The low-ball plus the concept of probationary employment made it possible for us to make cheaper mistakes. PLUS if the person worked out, we had room to give said person a nice raise at the time we confirmed them in position.

We have to remember this about the job market, though. You are NEVER paid what you think you are worth. EVER. You are always paid what your boss thinks your job is worth. AND there are annual surveys out there to TELL your boss what other people are paying for a job just like yours.


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I'm actually pretty happy with my salary. If I worked in London in the private sector, I could double it. But I want to work in local government because I can see that I'm making a difference. This scheme is actually my idea, for the town I live in. It was my report that the Cabinet voted on and I am overseeing the project to build it out. There aren't many jobs where you can have an idea, persuade funders to invest millions, and then be in charge of making it happen.


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I got it. They are taking up references now - just got a text to say they've spoken to my first reference who has given me his solid backing.


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I wanted to update this thread as it's interesting reading back knowing what has happened since.

I took the job, I now work in a town called Milton Keynes and it's exactly 131.6 miles door to door. I drive up very early on a Monday morning and travel back at lunchtime on Thursday, so I can still go to college on Thursday evenings in Eastbourne. I work from home on a Friday and have the weekends to myself.

My manager is brilliant and supportive. He's allowing me the freedom and flexibility to shape the service how I want.

I am struggling with my living arrangements though. Living in 2 places is discombobulating. But, in 2 weeks, I will be moving into a flat in MK during the week, so instead of travelling on a Monday morning, I'll go up very late on a Sunday evening. I am craving a routine, but at the moment, the place where I stay during the week is rather chaotic and I don't to cook or choose what we eat, so my diet has really suffered. It also doesn't help that there is an M&S foodstore (for anyone outside the UK, M&S is an up-market high street brand, with excellent quality food) over the road from the office. My lodgings also doesn't have wi-fi or a tv... I'm going stir-crazy! And don't even get me started on the naked men...

There are more positives than negatives - I'm glad I took the job - but I'll be even happier when I move into the flat.


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I am confident you will iterate your way to a decent routine. Little improvements will get you there. Having your own front door will make a huge difference, I am sure. Nothing like being master of your own environment - something I can only dream of!


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Sounds like you are heading in a good direction. Change sometimes takes time - to accomplish and then to adapt. Good luck. And, IF it is what you want, good luck with the naked men.

EDIT: Left out ONE important word from the post. You will know it when you see it.
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I lodge with a gay couple.
I walked in on them... naked (them, not me) in the living room.
Not quite what I expected at 06:45 on a Wednesday morning in Milton Keynes.

It was actually hilarious. One of them grabbed the nearest thing to hand to cover his blushes. It just so happened to be a plastic case used to stop a banana from bruising in your bag. So, imagine the scene, he's starkers and holding a large, yellow, banana-shaped object over his... well, I'll leave you to work it out.

All I'll say is that my retinas are scarred from the sight of it.